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Kara Trix
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:33:00 -
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This is a terrible idea and you are destroying the use of these weapons.
They will not be used for PVE at all now. No one in there right mind will fit these again if it takes a year to reload them (40 seconds is very much a year in EVE combat)
I have several toons skilled for RLML as they were wonderful weapons for the following reasons.
1) They hold 80 Missiles (That is fantastic) and you are making them only hold 23.... (Unusable)
2) They reload quickly (like 10 seconds) which is fair.... now it's going to 40 seconds (Crazy)
Wow,,, talk about a total and complete fail.
If anything, make a RLML variant that is called something else (unless I am reading this wrong already).
You are effectively removing this weapon from PVE use period.
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Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.13 23:51:00 -
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GallowsCalibrator wrote:Lots of people not getting the potential of front-loaded dps against smaller targets in this thread I think.
if you want to make a Front loaded weapon, .... make a new one... don't keep killing missiles....wow! |
Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:29:00 -
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I think everyone is only thinking PVP and very short fights.
Log on to SISI as I did and build your RLML ship of choice and TRY TO PVE with it.
It's a complete Joke... 40 second reload and 18 shots is a such a slam in the face to PVE players.
If you mission, there are dozens of frigs to kill and these missiles are now useless due to reload times.
For PVP, hope you don't expect a fight lasting longer than 18 shots, because your opponent is going to completely heal while your missiles reload.
The only people liking this are the players who don't use missiles. |
Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.14 12:56:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:Meh indicidual weapons systems upt medium spec don't take that long in reality with a decently foccussed skill plan etc. And once again another perfectly formed argument based on facts and a touch of whine at all here. 
You absolutely don't get it, since you most likely have played this game a very long time. I would also guess RLML are not your primary weapon. based on your killboard stats... you fly Amarr and Mini.
When CCP completely changes the use of a weapon, it deeply effects a new players skill plan.
It takes a month of focused skilling to shoot RLML effectively..... now it's worthless, since the weapon is useless, in terms of it's original multi-purpose use on Cruiser hulls. It's only a PVP weapon now and it's an extremely weak solo one at that.
A month is FOREVER for a new player. |
Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:02:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:
Not true. People that expect to use moderately to very large gangs will like it. 50 tengus wil be able to dish impressive damage with great application .
The problems resides in solo and very small gangs where you were the only dps with the other guy being tackle or ewar.
You said it...
They removed this weapon from the game. No one will use them now because there are so many better options after this nerf.
PS... No Tengu pilot will fit these for solo work and keep them as a primary weapon, and I don't know what game you're playing, but where is this 50 Tengu fleet? If they did exist, why in the world would they fit these piles when they can just fit HAMS and own. |
Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.14 20:07:00 -
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Almost 1500 comments (many from me) about this change
I like reading the forums (not sure why, maybe i like drama), but most of the time the troll has some idea of what they are talking about and bash me or someone like me to a proper place.... but this thread is much different.
Most people REALLY don't like this change and are puzzled why?
The only ones who have made a voice that approve of it, don't even use the weapon at all now (look up their kill boards) and most likely just don't like facing them on the field.
Enough Said... I'm done with this topic.... I relent.
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Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.16 22:46:00 -
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Sygma wrote:Ok, I think the reload time is a bad idea. We will use the Caracal as it is the example that was brought up. You are in a 5 on 5...you fire on the primary, fire on the secondary...you are out of missiles and are now wiped by the enemy fleet. You are effectively giving the opposing gang a free falcon every time you reload.
I understand what you are saying but you are limiting an entire weapon system. How about you leave them the same but give them a 20% bonus instead of 35%.
It is just a bad idea.
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They didn't bonus them at all... they are cutting the overall DPS and making it look pretty on the front end.
They cut the overall DPS over time by 20% on average. So they are pretty much just the same thing as
Light Missile Launchers now, but just front loaded, which in effect removed the benefit of the old RLML completely.
Bummer is those who spent months training ships and missile skills in order to buy into the RLML craze, pretty much
got dumped on.....
If they were over powered, just be creative and fix the other weapon types to compensate and move forward, rather then pull this silly take away.... truly unfair to missile users in general.
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Kara Trix
PVE Corporation
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Posted - 2013.11.17 00:05:00 -
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It doesn't stop.... the nails I mean for CERB pilots.. (which I am one)
They changed the bonus on the CERBERUS as well to exclude Light Missiles for the ROF bonus.
So now it will no longer give a 5% percent bonus to all missiles ROF... only HAM,HML and RLML
Wow....... keep them coming. So we get ZERO damage bonus on Lights for flying this expensive HAC over a T1, only range?
Why not just put a 60 second aggression timer on missile pilots = if they attempt to fire on anything "lock all systems" for 60 seconds until they yield and fly a turret ship.
Why do all this?
EDIT: Logged into SISI and it infact says as I've quoted above, but I fit the Light II's on all the Caldari Cruiser hulls and the CERB did still have More DPS then the Navy Caracal... ???? |
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